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Monday, June 26th 2006, 11:23am

Wir gedenken...

Bruno oder JJ1:

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Jäger töten Braunbär "JJ1"
Braunbär "JJ1" ist tot. Das Tier wurde am frühen Morgen im Rotwandgebiet oberhalb des Spitzingsees erschossen, wie das bayerische Umweltministerium inzwischen bestätigte. Nach Informationen des Bayerischen Rundfunks haben Jäger des Weilheimer Landratsamts den Bären erlegt.


Braunbär "JJ1"
Die tödlichen Schüsse fielen gegen 5.00 Uhr. Zuletzt war er am Samstag von Wanderern im Gebiet der Rotwand gesichtet worden. Dort hatte er oberhalb des Spitzingsees ein Schaf gerissen.

Begegnungen am Samstag
Am Samstagnachmittag war der Braunbär drei Mountainbikern am Soinsee (Landkreis Miesbach) begegnet. Zum Glück für die Sportler war das Zusammentreffen nur kurz, sie beobachteten den Bären anschließend dabei, wie er den See durchschwamm. Wenig später tauchte das Tier in der Nähe einer Bergwachthütte im Rotwandgebiet auf, wo es von drei Wanderern gesehen wurde. Leichtsinnigerweise verfolgten sie den Bären, bis dieser sich zu ihnen umdrehte und sie verscheucht habe, berichtete der bayerische Bärenbeauftragte Manfred Wölfl.



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WAS HALTTET IHR VON DEM ABSCHUSS???

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 11:34am

Also langsam glaub ich es ja!
Ich halte das mit dem Bären für richtig.Daaa...
das Tier sich an die Menschliche nähe gewöhnt hatte,und untern den Bauern/Süchtern schaden angerichtet hat.

Hätten die Jäger das Tier nur betäubt und in einen Zoo gebracht wäre das was anderes.

Und warum gleich gedenkten? Dann kannst du ja fast jeden Tag ein gedenken für die Opfer im 2WW machen,das war schlimmer als nur son toter Bär.

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 5:16pm

Ich schäme mich, in Bayern zu wohnen.
Gott, die Schwarzen Flüchtlinge werden in Spanien auch nicht abgeknallt.

Und ein Bär hat auch ein Leben, wie ein Mensch!!! X( X( X( X(

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 5:25pm

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Und ein Bär hat auch ein Leben, wie ein Mensch!!

ne Kuh oder ein Schwein nicht?

Sehr blöde argumentation von dir.

Nur das der Bär für den Menschen gefählich werden kann/könnte.
Deshalb hat man sich entschlossen ihn zu beseitigen.
Und es war auch offiziel das er zum Abschuss frei ist.Also macht doch nich son Wind wegen dem Bären,sonst Knall ich mal ein Vogel ab und mach auch son Tornado drum.

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:11pm

Ich war auch nicht vom Abschuss des Bärens begeistert!!!!!

Es gehen sogar schon Morddrohungen beim bayrischen Umweltmenister ein!!!

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:16pm

Naja war halt pech, dass er eine Bedrohung für den Menschen dargestellt hat, aber ich denke da geht der Mensch vor dem Tier.
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:34pm

Da haste Recht. Es wundert mich, dass er nur Betäubt wurde, aber ist ja jetzt eh egal.
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:38pm

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Original von Bio

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Und ein Bär hat auch ein Leben, wie ein Mensch!!

ne Kuh oder ein Schwein nicht?

VON ESPANAWir essen auch Kühe und Schweine, aber diese werden dafür geboren um zu sterben!VON ESPANA

Sehr blöde argumentation von dir.

Nur das der Bär für den Menschen gefählich werden kann/könnte.
Deshalb hat man sich entschlossen ihn zu beseitigen.
Und es war auch offiziel das er zum Abschuss frei ist.Also macht doch nich son Wind wegen dem Bären,sonst Knall ich mal ein Vogel ab und mach auch son Tornado drum.


Hier in meiner Umgebung hat sich Bruno auch aufgehalten.

PRO:
Man hätte den Bären betäuben und einfangen können, im Wildpark Poing bei Erding (ETSE, EDDM) wäre ein guter Lebensraum gewesen.

CONTRA:
Wenn der Bär einen Menschen angefallen hätte, wären die Leute ebenfalls sauer auf das UWM warum diese den Bären nicht schon längst erledigt haben.


Man sieht, dass man es den Menschen nie recht machen kann.
Der Bär hätte trotzdem weiterleben sollen

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:41pm

Bei der nächsten Wahl darf ich schon wählen, CSU niemals!
Mordpolitik was die da machen!

Armens Viech...

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:45pm

Es war nicht nur die Regierung, die mitgesprochen hat ;)

WWF war der maßgebliche Auslöser, denn die Empfehlungen waren in Absprache mit dem WWF und der Regierung. Es mag schon einiges heißen, wenn der WWF sich für eine Erschießung ausspricht.
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 6:57pm

Lieber Documuesly, es war die Regierung nicht WWF.
Die Regierung des Landes Tirol und des Freistaates Bayern.

AB heute hätte der Bär in Tirol erschossen werden dürfen, ab morgen in Bayern.
Aber der Bär wurde heute morgen von einem Jäger hier in der Nähe erschossen.

Die Schuld gilt dem UWM des Staates Bayern, die WWF hat nichts am Hut, die haben nur mit einer großen Falle die Suche unterstützt

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 7:07pm

Sie haben der Erschießung zugestimmt und haben den Regierungen beratend zur Seite gestanden.
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 7:27pm

So, aber jetzt kommts:

Der Bär wurde in Bayern von einem Jäger erschossen.
Der Jäger hatte aber gar keine Erlaubnis, den Bären zu erschießen, da der Abschussbefehl erst ab morgen gegolten hätte.

Also war die Execution ILLEGAL.

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Monday, June 26th 2006, 7:39pm

Jetzt wird schon wegen dem Bär nen Thread aufgemacht! :rolleyes:

Gut so das der Bär tot ist!Sonst hätt er noch Menschen angegriffen etc!

Jetzt ist endlich wieder Ruhe!
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 7:53pm

Ich finde das Verhalten der Regierung in Bayern nicht richtig. Immerhin hätte man das Tier auch fangen können und es ist schon komisch das man wenige Stunden nach Erlass der Abschussgenehmigung das Tier findet und tötet. Warum konnte man es Wochen vorher nicht fangen? Ich denke mal, das wird noch ein Nachspiel haben. "Wir töten doch in Thüringen auch keinen Bayer, nur weil sie hier fremd sind und sie gern auch einmal daneben benehmen."
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 7:58pm

Was bewegt einen denn daran?Mein Gott...ein Bär, die Welt geht unter! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 8:03pm

Ne hier in Thüringen gibt es keine Bären!*roll*
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 8:05pm

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Und jetzt, nenne mir Tiere, die um dich leben. Jetzt im Moment !


Nein weil dann kommen wir Off Topic! ;)
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 8:11pm

Leute jetzt mal keinen Streit.

Ich finde es schon wichtig, dass man sich zu solchen Themen auch gedanken macht und nicht immer nur Flugsimulator.

Ich selbst halte Tiere. Das ist eine große Verantwortung. Ich bin sehr Tierlieb, aber leider kann man solche Sachen wie mit dem Bären nicht verhindern.

Ich denke aber, dass das hier nicht in einem Streit enden soll. Dazu ist das Thema doch zu ernst.
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Monday, June 26th 2006, 8:27pm

Viele glauben sogar, dass es lila Kühe gibt :rolleyes:
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